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Re: Herding Skeptics Through Wal Mart

patsi — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:57:37 -0000

I also wondered why the media didn't cover it much. I wrote to the BBC and asked them. They said there would be "nothing new" at this conference. They'd heard it all before so it wasn't news. Fair enough, I thought.

What new scientific papers were presented? I keep hearing about how the science isn't right, and the IPCC is wrong, but it seems nobody from this community is doing any new research.

Why not?

Re: Herding Skeptics Through Wal Mart

Joseph Bookstein, MD — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:37:04 -0000

While it is true that ice-core data indicates that temperatures have been slightly higher than now in times long past, CO2 levels have never been higher. Co2 levels are continuing to rise at about 2 ppm/yr, and temperatures are climbing roughly in parallel.

The rise in greenhouse gases is due to the needs and wants of the huge global population. Controlling global warming will absolutely require voluntary global population reduction.

Re: Herding Skeptics Through Wal Mart

Joseph Bookstein, MD — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:32:52 -0000

It is true that ice core studies indicate that temperatures have been a little higher than now at times long past. However, carbon dioxide levels have never been as high as they are now, and carbon dioxide levels are continuing to rise steadily at 2 parts per million per year. The average temperature seems to be rising in parallel, although with less consistency than the rise of CO2.

The rise in CO2 and other GHG is due to the increased needs and wants of a huge human population. A good part of the answer to global warming will have to be voluntary population reduction.

Re: Herding Skeptics Through Wal Mart

BEN GITLOW — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:21:19 -0000

THE MEDIA ALMOST UNIVERSALLY IGNORED THE CONFERENCE. NOT A PEEP IN NY TIMES EXCEPT AD FOR CONFERENCE. ONLY ONE BRIEF REFEFRENCE ON FOX'S BRIT HUME PROGRAM AND THAT FEATURED THE FACT THAT OBJECTIONS WERE RAISED BY A BROADCAST WEATHER MAN. A FEW YEARS AGO I LOOKED AT ABOUT 50 WORLD WIDE WEATHER STATION RECORDS (NCDC) FROM THE PERIOD CIRCA 1860 TO 1995( THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF STATIONS) AND THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE OF WARMING OR COOLING. PALEOLITHIC RECORDS PUBLISHED IN"SCIENCE" - NOT KNOWN AS A RABID CONSERVATIVE PUBLICATION- SHOW THAT CLIMATE CHANGES CYCLICALLY FROM MUCH COLDER THAN NOW TO MUCH WARMER AND CO2 HAS OFTEN BEEN AS HIGH OR HIGHER THAN NOW. I SUPPOSE AL GORE DOESN'T READ "SCIENCE".